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Partial Birth Abortion May Soon Be a Reality In Northern Ireland.

June 22, 2007 · 7 Comments

Under new Guidelines on Abortion (click here) being considered by the Department of Health under the new minister Mr Michael McGimpsey, there will be a loophole in the current law which, if used to its full extent will allow for the horror of partial birth abortion (click here).

For all ordinary people who haven’t yet heard of this horror, it’s a process whereby a child is aborted (read “murdered”) as it is being born. If you think this is too horrific even for abortionists to stoop too, it has been going on in America for years.

Recently the Americans have passed a Bill (Click here) stopping Partial Birth Abortion. However as this Bill states that babies can’t be aborted if they have been born “Past the navel” or head first “Past the Chin” it is now emerging that abortion doctors may be discovering new, and even more terrible ways of disposing of these children without breaking the law.

The pain of the partial birth abortion ban”

“Pro-lifers opposing the partial birth abortion ban say it will force abortionists to commit more torturous abortions, and this may be true. Whereas the ban prohibits breech abortions of babies delivered past the navel and head-first abortions of babies delivered past the chin, some pro-lifers say abortionists will now simply deliver a baby’s legs and rip them off before proceeding, or deliver the baby almost to the navel and disembowel the baby, etc. One pro-life group opposing the partial birth abortion ban wrote in an Open Letter to Dr. James Dobson two weeks ago (emphasis theirs): The [Supreme Court] Justices raise the likelihood that with this [PBA ban] ruling, the fetus faces greater brutality. On page 30, the Justices note the objection “that the standard D&E is in some respects as brutal, if not more, than the intact D&E [PBA].”  (from Pro Life Blogs Click Here)

Why do I assert that this could happen in Northern Ireland, And therefore IRELAND, under the new proposed draft guidelines from our Department of Health (hereinafter to be referred to as the Department of Hell by O’Donnell)?

Read on:

The guidelines say:

“(iii) a termination will therefore be lawful where the continuance of
the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother, or would
adversely affect her physical or mental health
; “

The guidelines go on to say that the mental health aspect could include a woman who threatens to commit suicide. THERE IS NO CRIMINAL LEGAL PRECEDENT FOR THIS ! But hey, who cares about the law and honesty when we are on the subject of the “slaughter of the innocents”.

The Guidelines also require that all doctors are able to perform abortions for “each gestation band”.

2. Termination procedures
2.1 As a minimum, clinicians should be able to provide a termination of
pregnancy by one of the recommended methods for each gestation
band.” (Guidelines)

FULL TERM abortions are therefore REQUIRED by these guidelines.

THERE IS NOTHING TO STOP PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION HAPPENING AS THERE ARE NO TIME LIMITS IN N. IRISH LAW.

IF SOMEONE CLAIMS TO BE SUICIDAL THEY CAN HAVE AN ABORTION.

WOW! ABORTION ON DEMAND, TO FULL TERM INCLUDING PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION, AND THE MINISTER, MR MCGIMPSEY UUP, SAYS “THESE GUIDELINES ARE NOT CHANGING THE LAW”.

Categories: Abortion · Legal/Medical

7 responses so far ↓

  • sarahv // July 4, 2007 at 7:02 pm | Reply

    Whatever propaganda you may have heard, and I suspect it’s plenty, IDE has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion at full term. It wouldn’t be physically possible to perform the procedure at full term. (How many abortions have you ever heard of at full term, anyway?)

  • eodon // July 5, 2007 at 12:07 am | Reply

    The criminal offence of Child Destruction 1929 (England) 1945 (North of Ireland) was introduced specifically to deal with the murder of children as they are being born. This was because the Illegal abortion offence covered an unborn child to the point of birth and Infanticide covered a child who was actually born.
    The Child Destruction offence makes it illegal to kill a child who is “cabable of being born alive”, thus overlaping the Illegal Abortion offence and also covering the period of actual birth.
    Obviously it is possible to kill a child at full term.
    However, my point in the above article is that because there are no time limits to the proposed suicide ground there is a real prospect that we may have partial birth abortion being introduced.
    Where something is not legislated against, it is likely to happen.

  • sarahv // July 5, 2007 at 10:31 pm | Reply

    I think you’ve missed the point. It’s not that it would be physically impossible to find a way to kill a term fetus as it emerges, but that the procedure rather misleadingly referred to as ‘partial birth abortion’ could not be used for this purpose. In fact, IDE has nothing to do with abortions at full term, although pro-lifers claim it does as it makes good propaganda.

    I thought I’d put in a link explaining this in a bit more detail, but either I forgot or else WordPress edited it out – I’ll have another go.

  • eodon // July 6, 2007 at 9:43 am | Reply

    The Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 (USA) states in its first paragraph as follows:

    “(1) A moral, medical, and ethical consensus exists that the practice of performing a partial-birth abortion — an abortion in which a physician delivers an unborn child’s body until only the head remains inside the womb, punctures the back of the child’s skull with a Sharp instrument, and sucks the child’s brains out before completing deliveryof the dead infant — is a gruesome and inhumane procedure that is never medically necessary and should be prohibited.”

    I think I have been fairly clear. This is Partial Birth Abortion. Pro Aborts in America are far more candid than Pro Aborts in the UK and Ireland.

    Or is it just that people here are still sickened by this kind of practice and Pro Aborts prefer not to admit to it?

    There are obviously different methods of abortion at different stages of gestation. Partial Birth Abortion is one of them.

    Children are aborted in the third trimester, up to full term in many countries. In England children who are deemed to be “abnormal” can be aborted to full term. In fact only 2 of the 7 grounds in the Abortion Act are limited to 24 weeks.

    The fact that you like the word “propaganda” so much is probably more indicative of your own mindset than anyone elses.

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  • Conor // April 3, 2008 at 2:42 am | Reply

    Abortion is murder. Simple as.

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